[14] By 16 March (the deadline for submitting expressions of interest), 42 towns and cities had expressed an interest in hosting GBR's headquarters. The first Class 31 entered service in November . But do we really want to go back to that? He branded the Prime Minister an English nationalist, who was prepared to ignore Northern Ireland as the Conservatives have no electoral stake in the Province. This livery was well received by enthusiasts but as the Class 56s only hauled freight, it was decided to extend the experiment to a passenger loco. [13] Initially new locos were still painted in the traditional Rail Blue livery, but starting with Class 56 number 56084 the new Large Logo version was standard on new locos delivered to BR. As part of this work, the team engaged with industry through a formal call for evidence. In many ways having a 'Railway System' logo (the double arrow) for stations/journey planners but a different logo so people know the train is a 'big' intercity train or a 'small' stopping train is very helpful. Managed to get a look at a new proposed one: But my point is that DB have had the same basic livery for so long. . The distinctive angular shape of the HST power cars did not lend itself to applying yellow on the leading face, so the yellow was wrapped around and extended along the side of each power car, although the coaches retained the usual Rail Blue coaching stock livery. [9][10] Several other Class 47 locomotives, some Class 31s, and even some DMU cabs, were subsequently also painted by Stratford with grey roofs, the variation becoming something of a trademark for the depot. Not so much the modern LNER though. The Blue Pullman sets retained their livery of Nanking Blue (albeit with full yellow ends) until 1969 when they were repainted in the reversed grey and blue livery. The WilliamsShapps plan recommended that there will be a single, unifying brand for railways, and it is expected that this will be a gradual rebranding over time. The anniversary of the Battle of Hastings which took place in 1066 was also used in publicity for the line. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. People are understandably sceptical about the frequent rebranding . Its not as if they need the advertising, nor do their brands carry the historic and emotional heft that the famous schemes of the genuinely private railways did. Avanti merged with LNWR to form a GNWR brand. Class 14s D9537 (in desert sand livery) and D9539 prepare a double-head a train on the Ribble Steam Railway. Interesting mock up doublearrow on Twitter just posted: What problem is this supposed to be fixing? If only we were to see a coherent joined up livery scheme to run nationwide like the picture above , however I rather suspect this will not be the case. The colours were chosen to be different from those of any of the "Big Four" pre-nationalisation railway companies while retaining a traditional aspect. A livery, similar to ScotRail but with the upper dark grey bodyside replaced with a dark blue, was created. It'll be operated quite differently. Unfortunately, there is little sign that Beattie actually intends to do anything differently, in this regard at least, to the Democratic Unionists he hopes to supplant. But theres no particular reason this should be. The UK, Britain, Great Britain, The British Isles, England - what's the difference? The devolved administrations, the combined authorities, and the Greater London Authority will continue to exercise their current powers, such as setting fares and awarding contracts, and will remain democratically accountable for this. Sadly cream on modern stock looks quite bad, or I suspect one incarnation of GWR might have tried it white might work ok instead. In 1957 this changed to maroon with yellow markings and in 1963 bauxite with white lettering was adopted. I personally like this Lion logo posted by Tim Dunn on twitter a few years ago. This includes transport, with the first Union Connectivity Review being published earlier this year. Clean, modern, easy to read, looks good and in the right colour set. | Page 27 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; It really wouldn't. The Great British Railway - and please, spare us the flag-waving - will incorporate Network Rail (renationalised in 2002 after privatised Railtrack collapsed), ticketing and awarding operator . All Class 42 "Warship" class diesels were delivered in green but some Class 52s were delivered in maroon to match the then-standard coaching stock livery. Sadly cream on modern stock looks quite bad, or I suspect one incarnation of GWR might have tried it white might work ok instead. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; I wanted to go for something modern yet flexible. It still has to look good decades from now. I could see those different types of logos being used across scenarios. [16] A public vote was held following the announcement.[16]. So even if that doesn't become the actual 'GBR' logo it will likely see some use on stations and maybe trains. [15], Originally scheduled for May 2022,[14] a shortlist consisting Birmingham, Crewe, Derby, Doncaster, Newcastle upon Tyne, and York was announced in July 2022,[16] using the following criteria: alignment with "levelling up" objectives; connected and easy to get to; opportunities for GBR; railway heritage and links to the network; value for money; and public support. There just isn't room on a well functioning railway for true competition, so you might as well focus on the passenger experience, not the rail operator experience. British Railways coaches in the crimson and cream livery used from 1949 Discussions on the livery for British Railways coaching stock in 1948 eventually settled on a network-wide two-tone livery of crimson and cream for corridor coaches, with all-over crimson being used for local, non-corridor stock. I suppose they are quite bland. The colour often appears inaccurately in photographs, generally appearing brighter and bluer than the real colour. The British Isles in my old school geography books included the island of Ireland but I wouldn't have said that in my recent visit to the country! don't see an issue anywhere, as long as the concessions stay branded with whatever. [11][12], The location for GBR's headquarters is currently being determined. For example, the Midland Railway abolished Second-class on 1 st . Most of this nostalgia is from people who aren't old enough to remember just how rubbish latter day BR often was. A number of sets of coaching stock and a handful of locomotives received the livery, as well as most new multiple units and some existing ones. I still think" Great British Railways" will be mostly likely be termed GBR, most of the time. (Something that ought to give die-hard advocates of splitting off the Scottish Conservatives pause for thought.) 19th September, 2019. More middle days; they were improving quite a bit in the 1990s. GBR will own all stations and most infrastructure in Great Britain. Because for my money blue & grey is not the "same basic livery" as Swallow, neither is NSEs toothpaste anything like the red and cream worn in the 50s. It's the name of the island ffs. The name is still awful though and far too long. And again, there may be scope to take back control of this. With the publication of the Williams review and the announcement of the renationalization of British Passenger Rail, i thought i might help out anyone exited for new liveries or branding for trains.. This livery was known as Large Logo livery as each side of the locomotive was dominated by a full body height BR double arrow symbol, and had the loco number prominently displayed at twice the previous size. Corridor coaching stock was originally trialled in LNWR coach plum and off-white (nicknamed Plum and Spilt Milk) before Crimson (carmine red) and Cream livery (nicknamed Blood and Custard) was adopted across the network; non-corridor stock was painted plain Crimson. Still makes me cringe everytime I see/read 'Great' in front of anything British since this mob got in. This is "straight out of 1975": I'm inclined to disagree there. With the publication of the Williams review and the announcement of the renationalization of British Passenger Rail, i thought i might help out anyone exited for new liveries or branding for trains. You are using an out of date browser. Not even all yellow fronted anymore. After contacting GBRTT (Transition Team), I have been informed of their intention to create a new livery. Multiple units were also generally green, although this tended to be a lighter and bluer shade compared to the colour used on steam and diesel locomotives. The iconic London and North Eastern Railway brand - better known as LNER - looks set to be withdrawn again. There is surely a case at least for putting the cross-border inter-city services in national colours (perhaps an updated take on Network SouthEast), to match the saltires splashed all over Scotrail trains. The British Railway official livery for meat & fish vans (and other stock which normally travelled in passenger trains) was originally crimson with yellow lettering. Search for a trade mark - Intellectual Property Office (ipo.gov.uk), https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/912009372292780033, Somewhere along the West Anglia Main Line. As built it was a sort of purplish-red stripe with a lighter red shadow, then this changed to solid red in the late 90s/early 2000s. Or do you think TfL should change their look away from using the current font simply because it's been that way since the 1930s or whenever? Anyone got a suggestion for the government's latest bright idea today along the same lines, '. It will also control the contracting of passenger train services, the setting of fares and timetables, and the collection of fare revenue, with the exception of services wholly within Scotland and Wales. It's good work (and the previous set). Given that the vast majority of passengers dont really care what the brand is, do GBR really need a brand? The 25 kV electric locomotives were painted from new in a striking shade of bright blue which was known as "Electric Blue". The Union Jack will represent. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. One hallmark of the Governments approach to the constitutional struggle to hold the United Kingdom together has been a recognition that pro-Union policy is not simply a matter for a single department: it needs to run throughout the business of the State. For me, it's time to sign off from the Great Western Railway Line. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; Im unsure about the livery as such, but if Great British Railways is taken forward, Id expect GBR to feature. Due to the small number of units repainted it was common to see trains with two or more units in different liveries. Thats a bit like saying everything has been invented, no need for anything more. We need a sense of professionalism and togetherness, one branding brings that. A later version added a red stripe along the lower edge of the locomotive bodyside. [4] This was referred to as the InterCity Executive livery as the sets used were dedicated to operating morning/evening services operated for businesspeople. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. No.90021 in revised Railfreight "triple grey" livery, with Railfreight Distribution sector markings. Livery Guide Great Western Railways/British Railway Western Region. On the face of it, this is primarily a reorganisation of the franchise system in England control over passenger franchises in Scotland and Wales is, alas, devolved. There is also a British Standard paint colour BS381C 114 called Rail Blue which was introduced in 1964. I personally like this Lion logo posted by Tim Dunn on twitter a few years ago, Not at all. In the early years the colour faded quite badly, becoming lighter and paler with time although this problem had been overcome by the late 1970s. Northern and TPE split into separate Northwest and Northeast brands. Cross Country merged with EMT to form a brand called Midland Connect. If it was, that format would not be used by: If you need any proof, they've also just done the same with 'Great British Nuclear'. The livery was carried on the rolling stock, but also on a number of locomotives which were dedicated to mail and parcels traffic, mainly of Classes 47 and 90. The easiest way to guarantee readibility at night would be to use retroreflective coatings, like those used on road signs. I don't think the red understripe would appear though, and there will still be calls from TfGM, WYCA TfWM, TfW, etc. I just see the thing as extremely surface level. The United Kingdom is defined clearly on the passport .. the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. If they're bothered about 'red white and blue" then just stick the double arrow in a white background and give it a blue border. Aren't best impressions the ones that did the 2015 Virgin East Coast HST? I tried going with the National Rail icon in the right hand side, but it was too small and nobody would notice it. Here are his exact words: Hes concerned with the English vote. Blue Pullman in grey and blue livery arriving at Bristol Temple Meads in 1973. Now there's a system others can look up to. Which does what it says on the tin. [17] This livery is also often nicknamed 'toothpaste livery' by rail enthusiasts due to the multicoloured stripes resembling striped toothpaste. JavaScript is disabled. Great Britain (or just Britain) is the mainland of England, Scotland and Wales. Great British Railways: The Williams-Shapps Plan for Rail (print version) Ref: ISBN 978-1-5286-2465-7 , CCS0321182446 05/21 , CP 423 PDF , 55.8 MB , 112 pages Order a copy Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread . Oct 22, 2021 All that remains, is to remember the man who made the Journey possible; the greatest engineer of all time and the architect who built modern Britain - Isambard Kingdom Brunel. particularly associated with the depots at Old Oak Common and It may not display this or other websites correctly. Different NSE style local/commuter networks round the country. And if Northern are still running trains to Glasgow, a new paint job would be a great moment for the Government to stump up for good rolling stock. The signs look good, if a bit bland and functional. It looks like BR. Question for the designers. With the reorganisation of British Railways in the mid-1960s, a complete break with the past was signalled by the introduction of a blue and grey livery which dominated all passenger rolling stock until the mid-1980s, when a new Intercity livery (dark grey and beige with a red and white waistband) was introduced along with a number of regional colour schemes. How about that but the double arrow in red? No complaints really over the Rail Alphabet, I even like seeing it on old BR signage that still exists here and there. Construction of the first locomotive was completed in the final week of September 1957, and the handing-over took place on 31 October. For Station signage that is supposed to be functional and informative above all else, I don't see too much wrong with this. ScotRail was the brand name under which British Rail operated passenger services in Scotland and cross border services to Northern England and London. It would appear that were going to be waiting a while even for the new logo, and that given the recent nature of the franchise liveries, that new liveries are a very long way off. The current lot is an absolute mess. Incorrect: Britain and Great Britain are synonymous, referring to either the largest island of the British Isles (in a geographical context) or the countries of England, Scotland and Wales (in a political context). Railfreight livery, a colour scheme specifically for freight locomotives, was unveiled when Class 58 58001 drove through a plastic screen at Doncaster Works on 9 December 1982. It isnt hard to believe that there may be some truth to the suggestion that Johnson would be less cavalier in his treatment of Ulster if it returned even a handful of Government MPs. The system just looks like a disparate random mish mash of different organisations each running trains in their own way. It appears that while the plan is to brand all trains under GBR with one branding, that plan involves a much longer time scale: People are understandably sceptical about the frequent rebranding of trains and stations carried out under the privatised system, so the branding will be introduced alongside other improvements. In October 2021, the Secretary of State for Transport announced a competition to find a location for the headquarters of Great British Railways outside of London. It does look better than red. GBR will develop masterplans for station renewal. It's the name of the island ffs. Withdrawn 01001 is just visible at the rear. Thus Class 47 47170 County of Norfolk, allocated to Stratford and a regular performer on trains between Liverpool Street and Norwich, was painted in Large Logo livery. True. Could GBRTT be right for you? Read about the differences between Britain, the. Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread . Not sure but I was also thinking of the winding up arrangements that would've taken place at privatisation i.e. The bottom one is basically Serco era Northern signage, and does look good to me, though I would go for a subtle double arrow in the bottom right as I said earlier, and omit the GBR text. There have also been subtle font changes. The BR that believed in having multiple liveries and brands? Great British Railways (GBR) is a planned state-owned public body that will oversee rail transport in Great Britain,[1] with the exception of Transport for London and Merseytravel services, and light rail and trams elsewhere in England. They are an intercity operator. I can only see negatives. It's not going to be called Rail England and if it was, there'd be nothing "Queen Nicola" could do about it. The attachments illustrate this. Bare minimum, low effort. "Great" means "large", not "very good". Thanks. [7], GBR will use a slightly modified British Rail Double Arrow and the Rail Alphabet 2 typeface for branding. Messages: 1,398. Beattie acknowledges how Ulsters separate unionist parties weaken the Union. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I can sort of understand lumping Moorgate services in with London Overground, but LNER to Kings Lynn has been suggested many times without any compelling reason as to why, beyond "something something intercity standard", This idea often seems to pop its head up. This has been confirmed by records held at the National Railway Museum. It's already been seen with the government controlled LNER and GWR franchises for example. The text won't be centred vertically with the logo. Class 01 01002 inside Holyhead Breakwater shed in early black livery. Antrim Princess Sealink ferry underway in Larne with Sealink letters. The x-height of the lower-case lettering should be equal to the height of the horizontal arms in the symbol, so that the row of text appears to align with them. It may not display this or other websites correctly. A High Speed Train power car (loco) and coach in InterCity swallow livery. 3,609. thomalex said: One of the big ones is an end to endless rebranding of trains when the operator changes with various bit of old livery hanging about for a long time, never mind the cost and waste involved. Variants to the national brand will be developed to refect the English regions, Scotland and Wales, while emphasising that the railway is one network serving the whole of Great Britain. [6], The Vale of Rheidol Railway remained steam operated past the general end of steam traction in 1968; Accordingly the three remaining Vale of Rheidol Railway steam locomotives (Class 98) received the Rail Blue colour scheme and the double arrow logo on their side tanks. The great livery might only look good on certain trains, while on others it looks rubbish. It does affect other devolved rail operators, including ScotRail, Transport for Wales, London Overground, Elizabeth line (Crossrail), and Merseyrail, as well as the combined authorities that oversee other local railway networks in England. Variants where the band was blue (outer suburban) or green (inner suburban) instead of orange were planned, but never implemented.[15]. Last week Doug Beattie, the newly-installed leader of the Ulster Unionist Party, hit out at Boris Johnson. BR's first standard locomotive liveries, adopted from 1949 onwards. No.31271 in Railfreight "triple grey" livery with Construction sector markings. All Regions. Every TfW station I've been to are still ATW-branded (in fact, Hereford yesterday). Why are so many cars driven around dirty with the user making no attempt to keep them clean? Now the charge of English nationalism is a tedious, largely Remainer trope that I have dealt with elsewhere. Yes i like it, very clean and professional looking. There'll no doubt be someone on here who knows, one way or the other. This mock-up was shown in an orange and grey livery, which, however, never appeared on rolling stock in service. For example, GBR will apparently inherit from Network Rail the duty to run and plan the network, as well as providing online tickets, information and compensation for passengers nationwide. This opens up the possibility of a national ticketing app, with the Great British Railways branding. This included many of the features which were later incorporated in the Mark 2, and trialled in an experimental train designated XP64. Not the terms I would have used but I see where you might get that impression. The Overground operates under its own livery. This colour was applied to all diesel and electric locomotives, with the exception of the ends, which were painted yellow to improve visibility, and the underframes and buffer beams which were painted black; the paints being to BSS 2660-0.003 and BSS 2660-9.103 respectively. | Page 15 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. I suspect not many. [14] After this date, the passenger versions of Class 37 and 47, as well as Class 50, were routinely outshopped in this livery. I'm not aware - what are TfW doing? Roofs were Dark Grey and underframes originally brown, but later black. Why do most people go for a car that is mostly all one single colour. Standing on the sidelines of national politics and shouting is just what capital-U Unionism does now. Today I would like to make a rather general suggestion rather than something specific. Non-corridor coaching stock and other multiple units received all-over Rail Blue until about 1980, when most received the same blue/grey livery as corridor coaching stock. In 2001, as passenger work for diesel locomotives operated by Virgin CrossCountry came to an end, a number of their Class 47s were painted in "heritage" liveries that they had carried in the past, including the former D1733, now 47853, which once again carried a near-correct version of the XP64 livery. Press J to jump to the feed. Of course it's possible to do better, but I'd argue there are bigger priorities as long as the signage is fit for purpose. Within a period of 10 years, HSTs had three different liveries. Here is some variants of my original 'swallow inspired' design. Launched as the London & South East Sector "Express Livery" this was a short-lived scheme which appeared on a limited amount of units and routes before the advent of Network SouthEast's "toothpaste" red white and blue striped livery. for some form of co-branding. Why not capitalize on it? Swiss rail. The wholly superior vision of the Campaign for Equal Citizenship is long abandoned. Also on the Eastern Region, Class 55 Deltic locomotives based at Finsbury Park acquired white surrounds to their cab windows. I never knew I had OCD until that remark lol. Also, like I said, it's possible that they legally can't call it BR. The Great British Railways Transition Team (GBRTT) seeks to deliver the most ambitious changes to our railways in a generation, working with the government and across the rail sector. Originally a trading brand of the Railway Executive of the British Transport . The whole GBR thing is complicated as you have ScotRail and TfW already as separate brands that won't change, yet using "Rail England" or whatever is going to provoke outrage where services run by "English" operators go into Scotland and Wales (which rather ignores the same the other way round!). I am confident I could design a better package in a few hours, and I am not a design professional. European paint code RAL5020 ("Ocean Blue") is a good match to Rail Blue. Great Central Railway {} Sample: 002366: Great Eastern Railway {} Sample: 00a550: Great Northern Railway (Great Britain) {{GNGE colour}} Sample: 00645b: Great Northern and Great Eastern Joint Railway {{GWGC colour}} Sample: 47640f: Great Western and Great Central Joint Railway {} Sample: 964b00: Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway [5] As Rail Blue was introduced, the last locomotive recorded as being outshopped in a previous livery was Class 43 D838 Rapid which left Swindon Works in August 1968 in maroon. This grey panel finished just short of the end of the coach leaving a small amount of Rail Blue which then continued round onto the end of the coach. It is not necessary to have it on platform signs as if you don't know you are on the railway when you see them there probably isn't much hope for you. The train is operated by the Steam Dreams Rail Co. Mayflower built in 1948, is one of two surviving B1 Class locomotives and painted in distinctive British Railways apple green livery. I have heard that the BR double arrows will remain in use due to the fact that in the UK everyone recognises it as the 'train station' symbol. "Great" means "large", not "very good". One of the big ones is an end to endless rebranding of trains when the operator changes with various bit of old livery hanging about for a long time, never mind the cost and waste involved. In the days of signs being hand painted/stencilled on enamel I would agree, but it is so much easier to make stuff look good these days that there is really no excuse for this sort of thing. The livery was applied only to some Class 309 "Clacton" units on the former Eastern Region and to a few of Classes 411 (4Cep), 419 (MLV) and 421 (4Cig) on the former Southern Region. 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